Subject	My pistons didn't break. They melted . Look at the
Posted by	MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) on May 19, 2003 at 3:04 PM
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In Reply To	No. Detonation killed your engine. >> posted by MugenRacer on May 19, 2003 at 02:17 PM
Message	pictures again. It is melted on the top above the compresion rings. The rings didn't break. They still held compression like the other pistons did . How would pieces of the piston get in the oil? It would have to go past the skirt by your observation? Maybe it took a short cut through the valves, past the valve stem seal and then down the oil passage into the pan from the head . Must be some magic pistons JUN is selling if that is the case.
Follow Ups	Pictures of my melted Jun pistons - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 00:16:09 05/19/03 OUCH! (n/m) - spotz 00:18:07 05/19/03 damn (n/m) - Spee 00:28:46 05/19/03 18 lbs of boost is a tad too much on pump gas. (n/m) - Seb 01:00:20 05/19/03 LOL!!! A tad :) (n/m) - Specialty-Z 01:06:59 05/19/03 I could rephrase it and come off harder and say>>>>> - Seb 01:17:02 05/19/03 Aren't there a lot of guys on here that run that - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 01:23:21 05/19/03 That is probably what misled you...... - Specialty-Z 01:29:30 05/19/03 That's exactly what I was thinking mislead him too - SeedyROM 02:37:10 05/19/03 I run 17 lbs on the street all the time. But >> - Arnel(Z32racing.com) 07:37:46 05/19/03 17 is fine for 93 or 94 octane.... - Specialty-Z 10:41:26 05/19/03 i run 20lbs on pump gas, been doin it for years. - Chris(NJ) 01:24:32 05/19/03 I consider myself pretty aggressive and I would not run.... - Specialty-Z 01:35:26 05/19/03 I run 16.5-17psi, 91 octane, 15base timing, and custom EPROM - Scotts94z32 09:55:38 05/19/03 I can not speak for your car because of your custom - Specialty-Z 10:55:16 05/19/03 Thanks. I've checked my plugs before and they appear clean. - Scotts94z32 13:15:15 05/19/03 ok cool...i'll give it a shot...you suggest 17 degrees ? - Chris(NJ) 10:22:53 05/19/03 Yes, You will notice the car will be more responsive. (n/m) - Specialty-Z 10:43:27 05/19/03 But his turbos flow a lot more air at 20 psi (n/m) - U ZCREAM 08:43:58 05/19/03 true (n/m) - Chris(NJ) 16:02:31 05/19/03 I have been running 17psi and my NGK... - Jonezy (Semper FI!!!) 10:33:32 05/19/03 Again.....apples and oranges.....91 Vs 93 is a major ...... - Specialty-Z 10:47:39 05/19/03 Hmm...I ran 18psi on 19 degree timing daily on pump gas. - sparkie 15:40:41 05/19/03 I run 1.30 bar on 94 pump all the time. My timing is at 15 (n/m) - TwinTurboPete 10:34:32 05/19/03 I wish everyone had 94 octane. :-( (n/m) - ZHOUND 11:23:26 05/19/03 19.5 lbs of boost, 15 deg ign, on 94 pump gas and no detonat - Bernie 14:06:43 05/19/03 Re: Pictures of my melted Jun pistons - Specialty-Z 01:05:00 05/19/03 wow thats painful... famous last words: - Red ZX (SoCal) 01:10:14 05/19/03 Next engine I am going start using water injection and - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 01:30:36 05/19/03 Buick GN's also use a knock monitor that might be able - BFastRBLast (Ca) 02:10:37 05/19/03 Then the question I have is... - RSR 08:02:48 05/19/03 Who said I am blaming the builder for detonation? - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 08:24:42 05/19/03 That's not what I meant or intended to say.... - RSR 12:48:53 05/19/03 Re: That's not what I meant or intended to say.... - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 13:10:39 05/19/03 No. Detonation killed your engine. >> - MugenRacer 14:17:37 05/19/03 My pistons didn't break. They melted . Look at the - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 15:04:03 05/19/03 Yikes. - ZHOUND 09:33:42 05/19/03 You can blame it on your turbos at least partially. - sparkie 11:21:43 05/19/03 You seem to have something against my turbos. I feel - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 12:15:53 05/19/03 Re: You seem to have something against my turbos. I feel - sparkie 13:55:56 05/19/03 I dont' have a T25 turbine. It is the GT series - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 14:29:36 05/19/03 hybrid turbo - sparkie 14:00:26 05/19/03 Mine turbos are Garret cartridge. HKS or Incon - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 14:34:46 05/19/03 Thats exactly his point, Turbine and housing are mismatched (n/m) - MugenRacer 14:39:51 05/19/03 He never said anything about housing he - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 14:54:36 05/19/03 See the scrathces in the 3rd pic? Thats from the "melted" - MugenRacer 15:14:24 05/19/03 That is from piston slap. Agains it would have to - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 15:27:11 05/19/03 The pistons that didn't melt also have those same - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 15:28:18 05/19/03 damn-sorry to see that!! (n/m) - Wagz 12:41:07 05/19/03
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